This is a review from a Natural Enzymes customer (ntuftnell) of their own family experience of which they want to help others with telling their own story
How We Got Rid of Scabies
We had scabies for six months and wanted to pass on our experience. We aren’t doctors so this is just an account of what we did, not advice.
We initially thought we had mosquito bites after camping but they didn’t go after several days. Then we got a serious rash over our chests and legs. We realised it was scabies when our university student son said he had it and had visited home recently.
We went to the doctor and were prescribed permethrin and ivermectin and duly followed the orders to hot wash clothes and sheets (60degC or above) or isolate them on a four day rotation and putting a blanket on chairs we sat on (also getting hot washed or being 4 day rotated). We bought 4 large plastic boxes with lids and rotated clothes through that system.
Permethrin is a cream which you have to put all over your body (ensuring you get it all over). Ivermectin is supposed to work by taking one dose (tablets, based on your weight) and another dose a week later. We waited a couple of weeks but found that neither of those worked. There has been talk in the press and anecdotally for some time that scabies is becoming resistant to both of these treatments.
We were distressed and worried that we wouldn’t ever get rid of it so we started to research alternative treatments.
First of all we tried sulphur cream and benzyl benzoate neither of these were very pleasant you and had to cover your skin and sleep with them and they both smell quite bad . We didn’t do these very systematically so for example the sulfur is supposed to be done for three or five nights in a row but we would just scattergun trying different things. So I can’t really say whether they would have worked if we’d done that but they didn’t as is. Others say this worked for them.
We also tried some different oils: Castor oil or coconut oil sometimes on its own and sometimes with essential oils like clove oil, tea tree oil or eucalyptus oil which seemed to calm the scabies down a little bit but it didn’t make it go away. We tried tamanu oil and neem which may have helped but it didn’t go away.
Castor oil works because it’s very thick and suffocates the bugs but it does rub off in the night so isn’t 100% and makes a mess of the bed, also uncomfortable. We even tried doing the castor oil and wrapping ourselves in cling film and watching telly. It would have been funny if it wasn’t so uncomfortable.
By this point or a certain point we were extremely itchy and finding it very difficult to work and socialise and keep ourselves away from people which was quite distressing.
Then we started to follow advice to do salt baths. Salt apparently bypasses the scabies ability to regulate water intake. Advice we followed said do 90 minute salt baths (4 cups salt 2 cups epsom) The skin stays well hydrated using the epsom. I understand if you’re diabetic this isn’t an option. We did try borax too which I’m sure the scabies hated but so did our skin so we stopped that.
We tried different combinations of salt buying sacks of rock salt from an international supermarket keeping as much of ourselves under the water as possible for as long as possible which was quite difficult. We also tried Epsom salts which was quite pleasant.
The baths did help a bit and we also used witch hazel, salicylic or essential oils you can use neat like tea tree on particularly troubling spots both of which helped but they weren’t actually going. Also Eurax or hydrocortisone cream for the itching. I didn’t find antihistamines worked for this but others did.
Finally, we tried a spray from Kleen Green. It’s an enzyme and it kills the scabies at certain point of the lifecycle (google them for the science) so you have to spray it on your whole body three to four times every day. It wasn’t so fun to strip off times a day (especially in winter!) though we work from home so it was easier. The good thing about the spray is it doesn’t smell so you can work without smelling like rotten eggs (as with the sulphur)! The other good thing is that it doesn’t make your skin uncomfortable but the best thing is that it actually worked!
We also tried eating lots of garlic alongside all of this! We tried Malathion and Derbac creams early on which didn’t do much. We used a plastic bread scraper and soft nail brush and brushed our skin in the shower using sulphur soap which I think may help as it will disrupt the nymphs at the surface. See https://www.cdc.gov/dpdx/scabies/index.html re their lifecycle.
Things that were recommended on the internet that we didn’t try were infrared sauna heating pad (couldn’t afford as we’d spent too much already!) and colloidal silver which seemed to be unsafe.
One thing that is tricky is that our skin continued to be itchy for a while because we had done so many things to it. It was hard therefore to know when we had got rid of it. Generally I think having red bumps is the indicator though these can last after they are dead. We did the Kleen Green for 6 weeks then started to feel better and cut down after a week or two after 6 weeks then stopped.
A month later our skin is feeling better. I think with just the Kleen Green this wouldn’t have been the case (our son got rid of scabies with just the Kleen Green and didn’t have irrated skin afterwards) but the sulphur, salts etc etc took a toll. It’s good to use a gentle moisturiser I think, we used sweet almond oil, to get the skin back into good health as well as eating well etc.
I really hope this helps. It takes a physical and mental toll. We didn’t sleep well, didn’t feel like seeing people and were exhausted from daily sheet changing etc. I recommend getting a system going with sheets etc and sharpie dates etc on the boxes and trying not to think about it all the time. It’s actually harder to pass on than you think (another son didn’t get it as we were careful with washing and seating). I think it’s around 15 minutes in direct contact with someone or their clothes / bed but you also need to take precautions to keep others safe.
This forum was useful.
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/permethrin-resistant-scabies-salt-is-killing-the-mites–723293
Kleen Green is naturally safe for all, from babies to the elderly and mothers-to-be who may prefer NOT to use chemicals during pregnancy or when dealing with the Scabies mites, and body lice.
Kleen Green natural enzymes
Kleen Green is a natural product derived from fruit enzymes. It causes the insect to moult its skin sooner than it should so it will then die.
Use 1 part Kleen Green Concentrated to 7 parts water (either warm or cool from the tap) with, for example, an egg cup or similar measure for dilution.
The 1 to 7 dilution will cause the insect to moult and die. It can be used as a weaker solution but it may take longer to see results.
Relax and enjoy a bath for 30 minutes or more.
Using the SB Lice Mite Body Wash or Sulphur Soap for body cleansing, cover the whole of your hair and body within the bath water. Be sure to reach every area of skin and hair at the same time.
Run a very warm bath up to hip height and add 100ml to 200ml using Kleen Green Concentrate (depending on body size).
Kleen Green will do it all, removing dirt, grease and dead skin with any pest, lice, or mite that may be on the outer surface of the skin.
Also, an optional choice is to add 30 drops of Tea tree oil and 30mls of Castor Oil to the Kleen Green bath. It is helpful to oil the skin (and repeat) with a personal choice of moisturizer twice to three times daily.
After bathing, take a look around the sides of the bath for any dead insect you may have had on your skin.
The Castor Oil - (or any oil) holds them to the side of the bath so check before cleaning the bath for any signs of infestation.
For best results, allow the body to dry naturally or, lightly towel dab the skin to dry.
Note: Enzymes will carry on working for some time and can still be used, perhaps for washing the car, floors, walls, or even in the garden to remove insects from plants or trees. So before you pull that bath plug, consider, is there anywhere you could use the enzymes water to benefit you around your home or garden.
What not to use with Kleen Green natural enzymes
Never use Kleen Green with vinegar, salt or other as this will neutralise the effect of the enzymes.
Natural oils and soaps are fine to use, as are make-ups and moisturizers.
Guide to daily uses:
With a cotton pad soaked in diluted Kleen Green for nappy rash, athletes foot, face cleanser, to remove Demodex mites from the face.
Used twice-daily for best results.
Kleen Green spray rubbed into areas using a soaked cotton pad to remove a mite deep within the skin.
Method:
Spray, massage, then rub in round circles on the skin area with the cotton pad or your fingertips until you see the black mite (or coloured fibres in the case of Morgellons) come to the surface.
Always double-check areas as they can become re-infected.
The whole body area of skin will need to be cleansed of the imbedded mite or fibre's with this method.
Also, Kleen Green enzymes can be used on the new arrival of an unknown insect, now being spoken of in the UK by many who suffer it.
This insect is now called the 'Noseem's', causing many people who speak of a fast moving insect, as a type of super headlice/fly with a mite (a stage of worm) covering all the scalp and body at the same time. It hides in the ears, nose and private areas.
Kleen Green is safe to use as often as is needed, either spraying or bathing daily.
Use Kleen Green as a treatment to protect, prevent and neutralize pests in a daily routine of cleansing each day.
The SB Lice & Mite Body Wash used in the daily shower also gives added protection and cleansing with very good results if, used consistently over time.
We cannot guarantee you will rid yourself of any pest without your own organised and diligent cleansing routine with consistent day-to-day effort.
This product is not an overnight cure or miracle solution to the world's pests and insects that are prolific and will multiply in the surroundings of people daily.
The product will help daily towards the total removal of insects if used routinely as a home and body cleanser. This can be achieved in 3 weeks with some insects or, 3 years in some deep skin infested situations. Slow but sure is what Kleen Green offers (if used daily).
Tips with add-on solutions
For skin mites - spray your hands with Kleen Green Spray and look for black specks to appear. Keep washing and spraying hands as often as is possible throughout the day.
Tip: Add Kleen Concentrate to liquid soap, 30ml to 250ml bottle.
Good for all the family to keep protected at all times around the home.
Kleen Green foot bath 100ml to 1000ml of water - soak feet and re-use the solution many times over, as the enzymes will not stop working.
Check your ankles for insects and use wet-wipe or cotton pad soaked in Kleen Green spray solution to wipe the ankle and feet throughout the day.
Most insects and parasites attack the feet, hands, or scalp first.
Salt Baths: (A guide only of measurement)
Borax x 200ml, Epsom salt 200ml with 100ml Bicarb to hot water. Soak in bath as long as you can manage.
More or less salts can be used and added to offer a choice for every skin type.
Also, salt foot baths will help too. Use as often as required daily.
Re-use the foot salt water to save on waste daily.
Also, use as salt body rinse in the shower. Add to a jug mixed with salts and pour over the hair and body while rubbing over the skin.
Use Borax in the wash load to kill insects. Add 4oz to a family wash load
Essential oils: Clove Oil for example, added to Caster Oil and used at night over the areas of the skin, especially the feet and legs.
Choose oils to suit the skin type, or insect type.
Be responsible at all times and use common sense in the use of oils. Always mix with a carrier oil such as Sweet Almond or Castor Oil. Set out a routine and be organised - family members won't be able to understand the situation if you don't have a protocol to follow.
Kleen Green diluted spray, rubbed into areas using a soaked cotton pad to remove the mites deep in the skin.
Massage or rub in circles until you see the black mite or coloured fibres (in the case of Morgellons) appear out of the skin. This may feel like grit, sand, fibre or a 1/4 inch straight cut hair or worm.
The whole body area of the skin will need to be cleansed by yourself of the imbedded mite (such as with scabies or a Noseeme's biting insect).
Product Claims: Natural enzymes cannot diagnose an insect or any skin disease.
This website offers information only as a guidance for self-help and treatment. Please seek expert advice on any insect type.
Every person's situation and lifestyle is different.
With the daily use of Kleen Green being part of a personal protocol treatment that is a natural, it is a safe alternative to pesticides or toxic chemicals.
It is noted that chemicals and pesticides do not always give a full removal of insects.
The Kleen Green product types are provided for prevention with insect control of the home and, cleansing of clothes, bedding and furniture, along with the living environment.
It also offers cleansing of the hair and body safely, with natural products.
No timescale can be given for the removal of an insect type due to each set of circumstances. How a product is used will vary from person to person and family lifestyle.
More information of methods of use of Kleen Green are in the leaflet that will be sent with the product.
